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Q&A with R.R. Vale

4/18/2020

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Welcome Radina! First, a few quick-fire questions: Which author would you be most nervous/excited to have read your work? Do you prefer cats or dogs? And, though I know we disagree on the whole Hawaiian pizza thing, what is your favorite pizza?
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​Such tough questions to start with! 1) I’m going to cheat and name two authors: my mom, who is a writer (fiction and TV/film), because she is my second-toughest critic, after myself, and always has invaluable insight. And Hilary Mantel, because she is my favorite living writer (and Wolf Hall is my favorite book of all time), and it would be terrifying and amazing if she ever read a word I wrote. 2) I’m a cat lover, but dog-curious. 3) When I’m feeling fancy: prosciutto and fresh arugula. When I’m feeling basic: pepperoni. 
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"When I’m feeling fancy: prosciutto and fresh arugula. When I’m feeling basic: pepperoni." 
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As a writer of thriller and fantasy, you know how to get the reader’s adrenaline pumping. What common pitfalls have you encountered, either through your own development or through reading others’ work, when writers try to amp up the tension but end up falling flat?
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Several things can make the tension fizzle. The first that comes to mind is info-dumping or excessive flashbacks / background in the midst of the action. If you want to maintain the tension throughout a scene, you have to stay as much as possible in the present moment. I’m currently reading Crescent City by Sarah J. Maas and am thoroughly enjoying it, but I nearly put it down in the first five chapters because it felt like every other moment in the scene was interrupted by detailed backstory. It’s something I have had to work on with my writing as well. Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo is a good example of how to keep the tension going, with backstory woven in more subtly.
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"Several things can make the tension fizzle. The first that comes to mind is info-dumping or
​excessive flashbacks / background in the midst of the action."
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There are many new avenues open for authors to share and publish their work online but being an author today also comes with a whole new set of challenges. What strategies helped you find success as you built your audience online and off? 
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As a first step, you have to identify what your goals are: do you have a published (or soon-to-be published) book that you’re ready to start marketing? Or are you more interested in building community at the moment? I, personally, am currently focused on community-building. I do my best to align my social media engagement with what feels good and authentic to me - my personal goal is to organically connect to readers and fellow writers. This means I gravitate toward the platforms I enjoy using, regardless of whether or not they have a good reputation for producing sales or click-throughs. Facebook, for example, is generally considered helpful, especially for indie writers, if you can learn how to leverage its targeted advertising system. But I do not enjoy Facebook. At all. So I prioritize my time on Instagram and Twitter, which perhaps aren’t as good at generating click-throughs, but are wonderful sources of inspiration and connection with fellow writers and readers. 

"I do my best to align my social media engagement with what feels good and authentic to me -
my personal goal is to organically connect to readers and fellow writers."
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​Having said all of that, if you are a published author - and particularly an indie who is solely responsible for your book marketing - you may want to take a more strategic and targeted approach. There are many books, blogs, and tutorials on how to successfully market as an indie writer. 

Second, as clichéd as this may sound, you have to show up as you. What you see on my social media feed is what you get: my real, sometimes messy, sometimes silly self. And I focus on showing up for the writers and readers I've met online with encouragement, positivity, support, and fun. It has been an amazing experience, and thanks to these connections, I now work with a wonderful group of critique partners and beta readers. 

"Second, as clichéd as this may sound, you have to show up as you. What you see on my social media feed
is what you get: my real, sometimes messy, sometimes silly self."
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And last but not least, focus on building a positive and welcoming space on your social media feeds. We’re all inundated with negative news on a daily basis (now more than ever), so I try to provide as much entertainment and escapism as possible. To that end, the best decision I've made was to launch a newsletter. It has helped me connect more deeply to the wonderful people I've met online, and it allows me to give back to the community - every month, I run a book giveaway exclusively for subscribers, because I love sharing the books that I’ve enjoyed (recent giveaways included Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo, Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman, Sinner by Sierra Simone). I also share things that I love talking about with friends: trailers for upcoming movies or TV shows (especially thrillers and mysteries), books coming up soon that I’m excited about, and interesting articles about real-life stories that are stranger than fiction and could be great inspiration for thrillers. The key is that I love doing all of this - and because I’m talking about things of general interest, other people seem to be finding enjoyment or a bit of distraction from the newsletter as well. 

It may take some experimentation, but take the time to find the things you enjoy and focus on them. That way, it won’t feel like work. A while ago, I drafted a blog post answering this question with some more detail, in case it's helpful.

Writing can be a lonely endeavor and it helps to have a community of writers around you for encouragement, critique, and, let’s be honest, to just blow off steam sometimes. You have established a healthy community of writers around you through your website and through Twitter events that you host. What advice do you have for writers who feel alone and are trying to connect with other writers?
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If you’re new to the twitter writing community, probably the best way to get started if you don’t know anyone is to follow some of the big writing hashtags. My favorites are #writingcommunity, #vss365, #indieapril, and #writerslift. The “vss365” tag stands for “very short stories, 365 days of the year,” and is a fantastic community of writers who craft single-story tweets based on a prompt word that the host of the month shares every day. I would start by supporting other writers on the vss365 tag - read their stories, like their tweets, and comment with words of encouragement. If you’re feeling brave, contribute your own stories! 

"I would start by supporting other writers on the vss365 tag - read their stories, like their tweets, and comment with words of encouragement. If you’re feeling brave, contribute your own stories!" 
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On the other tags, writers will often post questions for the community to answer, host giveaways of their books, seek beta readers, and introduce themselves if they’re new and looking to connect with fellow writers. Respond to their posts, answer their questions, and have fun! Most importantly, be courteous, professional, respectful, and kind.

​I should note that I am an extroverted introvert, so I usually enjoy connecting with folks on Twitter. 


If you are an introvert, or have social anxiety or otherwise feel uncomfortable being very open and communicative on social media, I completely understand that “Have fun!” isn’t going to be doable for everyone. ​Please don’t feel like you have to push yourself to be someone or do something that goes beyond your comfort zone. If you feel comfortable with a more limited form of engagement, you could start simply by reading through the above hashtags and getting familiar with the writing community online. And if you do a search of “how to build an author platform if you're an introvert,” quite a few resources pop up - rest assured that you’re not alone!
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"If you are an introvert, or have social anxiety or otherwise feel uncomfortable being very open and communicative on social media, I completely understand that “Have fun!” isn’t going to be doable for everyone."
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Your short story The Calving takes an honest look at environmental issues through the story  of a young couple facing an uncertain future. New writers often make the mistake of letting the message overshadow the narrative in a way that makes the story feel expository or preachy. How do you manage to write about issues that really matter while also keeping the narrative vibrant and engaging? 

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We generally like to read stories about people, not issues. I think one of the best things you can do as a writer is to read good journalism. The news can either be very dry and dull (presenting an issue from the perspective of statistics), or it can be deeply engrossing (highlighting a single person’s story to demonstrate the broader trends). 

In fiction, our job is to take the larger world and whatever big-picture issues we might want to explore, and to make them as personal as possible. One of my favorite reporters is Marie Colvin, who was killed in Homs, Syria, several years ago. Her war reporting, which has been published as a collection in On the Front Lines, is technically about very big-picture issues: geopolitics, ethnic cleansing, despotism. But her stories dig into such tremendously personal details that it often feels like you’re watching a movie. Colvin’s own story demonstrates the truth of all of this perfectly. 

"In fiction, our job is to take the larger world and whatever big-picture issues
we might want to explore, and to make them as personal as possible."
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​The dry story about the big-picture issue is: dozens of reporters are killed in war zones each year as they try to expose human rights abuses. The personal story is Marie Colvin’s own life, which reads very much like a thriller - so much so, that a Vanity Fair article about her was adapted into a movie a couple of years ago. Whatever subject matter you want to tackle, no matter how broad or epic it might be, put yourself in your characters’ shoes and make it as personal to them as you possibly can. 
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The Apartment, a short film which you wrote the screenplay for, is now in post-production. What was the experience of writing for film like and what advice do you have for brand new screenplay writers who are trying to break in? 
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It was a surreal experience to write words on a page and then see people bring those characters to life (I also directed the short, which my best friend and immensely talented filmmaker, Matthew Newton, produced). It was also rather frustrating. With fiction, you can write whatever you want - there are no budgets and production practicalities to hamper  your vision. With a screenplay, by contrast, you start with your dream vision (locations, scenes, the “look” of it all) … and then slowly whittle down that vision to a budget, production schedule, locations, and cast and crew hours you can actually afford. It is simultaneously a humbling and thrilling ride.
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"With fiction, you can write whatever you want - there are no budgets and production practicalities to hamper  your vision. With a screenplay, by contrast, you start with your dream vision ... and then slowly whittle down ..."
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I’m not trying to get an agent or sell a feature screenplay at the moment, so I can’t quite speak from experience about the industry, but I can give the following tips: 

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1) The Scriptnotes podcast, hosted by Craig Mazin and John August, is a fantastic resource. I have learned more about the screenwriting craft and the industry from them than from any book or website. They delve into detail on such nitty-gritty issues as the Writers Guild of America fee schedules, seeking agent representation, selling your screenplay, whether you have to live in L.A. if you want to make a career out of screenwriting, and so much more. I can’t thank them enough for the service they’re doing for us lowly newbies. 
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"The Scriptnotes podcast, hosted by Craig Mazin and John August, is a fantastic resource. I have learned more about the screenwriting craft and the industry from them than from any book or website." 
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2) Read as many screenplays as you can! Some of my personal favorites are Sicario (fantastic action sequences), Michael Clayton (brilliant dialogue and character development), and Traffic (great structure). Incidentally, all three scripts are examples of movies that take a big-picture political or social issue and make it intensely personal. There are so many other stellar scripts you can learn from. You can start with a search of the “top ten most important screenplays for a writer to read.” Or you can let your curiosity be your guide and start with the scripts of the movies you love. Either way, read with a critical eye and pay attention to plot structure, rhythm, dialogue, and all of the other craft elements you should examine when you’re reading to learn. 
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What is the next big project you have on the go? Can you give us any sneak peeks or hints around what it will be about? 
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​I’m really excited to indie-publish my first supernatural mystery novella! Mile Marker Eight combines the small-town weirdness of The X Files with the dark comedy of Fargo. Here’s a sneak peak: All that is left of Norman Müller is his left boot on the bank of the Neversink Reservoir. When he reappears eight days later with no memory of what happened, Sheriff Brenda Barton must decide: has Norman lost his mind, or is something darker gripping their small town? My target publication date is Halloween 2020.

"I’m really excited to indie-publish my first supernatural mystery novella! Mile Marker Eight combines the small-town weirdness of The X Files with the dark comedy of Fargo."
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I’m also currently revising the first draft of an adult supernatural thriller that melds three of my favorite things: super-strength, telekinesis, and mixed martial arts cage fighting (MMA is my favorite sport). It’s heart-pumping action, ticking-time-bomb danger, and a heavy dose of steamy romance. I hope to be ready to start querying agents in the fall. Until then, I’m sharing little details through my newsletter but otherwise playing this one close to the vest.
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Where can readers find more of your work and stay up to date on your latest publications?
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I’m at @rrvaleauthor on Twitter, where I host writing sprints and write vss365 stories, and on Instagram, where I share writing motivation and tips, book reviews, and moody shots that inspire some of my writing. And you can sign up for the monthly Thrills & Magic Newsletter for exclusive updates, giveaways, and behind-the-scenes sneak peeks.
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